Host Ira Glass talks to Aaryn Zhou. When she was nine, her father threw her into the
deep end of pool to teach her to swim. In this classic sink-or-swim scenario, she
sank. (6 1/2 minutes)
Host Ira Glass walks through possible next steps with a pro-life activist who worked on the Texas SB8 bill, that set a precedent for enforcement of abortion bans throughtout the country.
